State GOP goes on attack during Clinton visit

S.C. Republican Party Chairman Katon Dawson issued the following statement today, as U.S. Sen. Hillary Clinton, the Democratic frontrunner for president, visits South Carolina:

 

“Hillary Clinton is touting herself as the right candidate to change our country, but her idea of change is wrong for America – and wrong for South Carolina.  On the campaign trail, she has repeatedly promised to raise taxes, socialize medicine and surrender in Iraq.  In the U.S. Senate, her idea of change was voting to undercut our troops, saddle working families with higher taxes and fund abortions with federal dollars.  The change Hillary Clinton promises to bring proves she’s out of touch with voters across this State and across America.”

Comments

[Jovan Byars]

There goes the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy again! Katon Dawson and the crew are trying to distort her record. They are attacking Sen. Hillary in a desperate attempt to distract the voters in this state from the failures of the worst president in history, George W. Bush. And all of the Republicans are simply George W. Bush in disguise. Republicans don't want change. The GOP wants to maintain the status quo.

[The 7-10: Anthony Palmer]

I am so sick of politicos who say this kind of nonsense. Nobody is "promising" to raise taxes or "surrender" in Iraq. And if a politician were running on a platform of "surrendering" to our nation's enemies, then shouldn't that politician be charged with treason or cowardice?

I wrote more about this kind of stupid rhetoric here:

http://www.theseventen.com/2007/11/lame-political-discourse-part-2.html

[Joe Heilig]

Well she wants to pull our troops out without winning, in my book that is called "surrender". There is no other way to spin it. The whole Democrat party wants to give up, they are invested in defeat! Tell me one time the Democrats or Hillary has voted to reduce taxes. She is a Socialist! If she wins hold on to your wallet. If she wants to make our health care like Canada, why do so many of them come to the US for health care?

[Brian Feldhaus]

To Anthony Palmer:
besides some critics about Hillary I share: Healthcare in Canada: 100% covered! US:47 million no insurance at all. In the richest country on earth children dying because they have no medical insurance, Mr. Palmer. By the way, SC has one of the highest uninsured rates in the US. Ever been in the country side, mr. Palmer? It is not a matter of smashing each other, as a longterm GOP member I have to say: back to work together, Mr. Palmer, that is american, not spitting at each other, unamerican and unconstitutional.

[Lee]

Joe, Have you ever lived in a country where they have 100% covered? Have you seen what it is REALLY like? The obvious answer is NO! Insurance is an obvious problem and should be addressed by someone who knows what to do. Hillary failed her first time around so why do you think this time it would work?

[Brian Feldhaus]

Lee, actually I have lived in a european country where 100% are covered, they pay more out of their paycheck but nobody has to file bancruptsy due to medical bills. This is not my point. There's no paradise on earth for anything. And I'm not saying that Hillary's plan will work. I'm missing that on both aisle's of the political spectrum they start working on it and work together to get it solved. Just "keep going" is not a solution. And I don't care if Hillary or someone else GOP or Democrat solves the problem unless it gets done. The last 8 years our nation has become so divided, do you remember the Reagan years when Dems and GOP worked together? Long gone. As long as nobody else comes up with a suggestion, we have no right to flush the toilett over Hillary's plan.

[Free Citizen]

Are you people for socialized medicine blind or just plain stupid? The federal government cannot do anything without screwing it up. Look at social security, look at Walter Reed, look at FEMA. If you have ever had military health care (and I have) you don't ever wish that bureaucracy on anyone else. You don't have many choices. Whatever happened to people making their own decisions on the free market. I don't hear Hillary talking about freedom much in her campaign speeches. TRUE Freedom to choose, my insurance, my doctor, what I eat, where I live, who I associate with, and how my children will be schooled. THAT is freedom. No government mandated programs that redistribute wealth can ever be better than an individual's right to make personal decisions in the free markets.

[Bob]

Here is an idea. Get off your butt, get a job, and instead of blowing your money on cable television or a new car, buy insurance for yourself. It's called personal responsibility, something that liberals in this country would rather have the government do for them.

[The 7:10: Anthony Palmer]

Something is terribly wrong in this country when people's health is tied to capitalism. People can't even afford to get sick anymore, even WITH insurance because the premiums are often so high or so many services aren't covered--all so that Company X can increase its profits.

And the point of my original post is not about how to fix healthcare. It's about why we allow politicians and those with political influence to make these absolutely ridiculous statements and not hold them accountable. When did Hillary Clinton ever "promise" to raise taxes, for example?

[Bob]

Anthony,

She has promised it in almost every speech she has given. Go listen to clips on youtube. WAKE UP!!!! The liberals cannot redistribute your money without taking it from you first (aka raising taxes).

[Guy]

Some younger people CHOOSE not to purchase health care and that makes up about half those "uninsured." Also many of those uninsured are illegal aliens who do not deserve it anyway. Further more, if you want to make health care affordable you need to get government OUT. The less regulation there is the cheaper it will be and letting insurance companies compete across state lines will low prices dramatically!!! Also, the federal reserve is another problem, its meddling with our currency has created inflation making things more expensive as well.

[GW]

Bob, what do you enjoy most about being nuts? Huh. A deregulated insurance industry would be like a run away freight train. Let's be thankful that he government does regulate that industry even though it keeps more than a few politicians in it's hip pocket. Anyway, I just love the way people out in the hinterland are protective of the rich by squawking about the redistribution of wealth. The idea of a socialist state played out years ago.

[Spenser]

Guy you are way wrong. Less regulation? You mean like Enron? How did that turn out? How about the Savings and Loans debacle with the Keating 5 & Neil Bush( yes that Bush)? Or how about less regulation with the FCC? Are your cable, internet and phone bills coming down or going up for the exact same services? Just like speed limits on highways, Business Regulations keep things in balance.

Truth is the NUMBER ONE cost to businesses of all sizes is healthcare. Ask GM if they would like someone else to pay the $276 Million dollars a year for their employees. Why do you think companies move out of the US? Healthcare is the number one cost to employers and directly impacts the profitibility of companies of all sizes. No one is immune. It is the healthcare industry that is trying to scare everyone into thinking that their way with unregulated cost structures and biased claimed processes is the only way that you will ever be able to see your doctor. Its not. Phoney boogie man stories with no truth to back up any of the claims.

If Universal Healthcare was given to all US citizens, the economy would receive an unprecedented growth and boon, all because US companies could generate more profits while paying US workers more money.

Blaming the government for failed systems is also a total crock. Republicans cry that Social Security is broken (its not) or point to FEMA or Walter Reed for the failures? Well who was incharge of the FEMA & Walter Reed when the travesties occurred? Republicans. They cry something doesn't work and then go out of the way to destroy it and then say "See we told you so!"

Funny, when multiple hurricanes hit Florida and soldiers sought medical care prior to 2001, things worked just fine. Heck, even when Gnewt shutdown the government in his pissing match with Clinton, Social Security checks still got mailed out without anyone going without.

Look past the fear and the progress that benefits everyone, not just a select few will happen. Problem is many think they are the select few and retell the boogie-man stories, when in reality they are being played for as chumps. Look past the fear.

[Guy]

Spenser,

Unprecedented growth? You mean like France's socialist utopia with 9% unemployment and a stagnant economy?

It doesn't matter whether dems or repubs are in power, the federal government is too big and has exceeded its constitutional limits. The whole two parties system needs to go and a revolt needs to come from within from the citizens. The founders did not envision a government that takes care of us for our every need, while taxing us to death.

You are all in for a shock. I've had military health care and it's not the greatest thing ever. Now imagine that on a massive scale! Get ready for lines, rationing and huge taxes. Just remember the rich will find away around having to deal with it. (Politicians, celebrities, etc.) The middle class will not, and the people in power don't care because in the end they will still have their own private doctors, while the middle class gets shafted with a crappy medical bureaucracy. Doctors will go into private sector research rather than putting up with the government red tape as well.

What is so wrong with giving people money back on their taxes to pick their own insurance and own doctors??? I thought liberals were all about choice?

[Bob]

GW,

You are a pawn of the socialists and don't even know it. By the time you open you eyes, it will be too late. Everyone loves a useful fool.

[Spenser]

Nice try guy, but wrong. The military's problem is that they can't keep good staff and have 18 year old kids running the office. Private sector pays doctors and staff way more and are better operated. No one ever confused the military with a Fortune 500 company with efficiency. But that won't be the case as the same private doctors and staff in private care today will be the doctor and staff you see tomorrow.

France's problem is not healthcare...it lazy ass people and that problem is universal. Once again boogie-boogie socialism theories aren't a good excuse.

Only those who spoonfeed you the fear believe that there will be no choice in healthcare. Its just another topic to you go boo over. Truth is try going to a different specialist than the one your private heathcare provider wants you to. Its battle royale...and not much of a choice.

Raised Taxes? another boogie boogie fear pile of pooh. We haven't raised taxes to pay for a war, and it would only cost the US a fraction of the costs of this war to give every citizen good healthcare.

Alas, the old Constitution nonsense about big government. No fact, no foundation and more fear to keep you away.

Problem with everyone in this state is that they piss and moan over every little problem and when the problem can be fixed they don't want to hear about it 'cause it just easier to pretend its 1863 and cry about everything than actually do something.

Give me a freakin break.

[GW]

For all you anti-socialist weirdos, for your information the military is a very socialist society. You don't even know that. Folks, be real, what's wrong with having a healthy nation? The military has socialized medicine. I was in the military and got good health care when I needed it, which was rare. Who paid for that? I did, cause I paid taxes like everybody else. Bringing down the cost of health insurance, and the cost for medical care should be the goal of everyone. How to do that will be argued about til kingdom come. What seems interesting in this debate is that those who decry any kind of remedy to the health care crisis seem to be people who have good insurance, and to hell with those who can't afford it and don't. Unless things have changed everybody pays for those people who have to have treatment and have no means to pay for it. So that in a nutshell is on the brink of being socialized medicine.

Folks who decry government regulation need only look at events that led up to the great depression of the thirties a time when there were few regulations. Can you imagine this society today without the hated governmental regulations? You saw what happened when Reagan deregulated the savings and loan industry. It took years for the tax payers to pay for the collapse of some institutions. He deregulated the airline industry and look at it today. The conservatives and Republicans would do away with every government regulation and regulatory body if they could. Why? Because the greedy corporate interests would have a field day dumping crap into the waters, charging usurious rates for credit, and just about every thing they can to gouge people who have to work for a living.

And what is stunning is the fact that Republicans get so much support from people against whose interests their party works. Just look around and it will be abundantly clear as to how that works. Why would someone living on the margins vote for a candidate of a party that supports a tax on unemployment compensation, or allows credit card companies to force congress to pass a law making it next to impossible for someone to file for bankruptcy. Republicans have never supported the interests of the individual over powerful interests. If anybody is a useful fool it's someone who works against their own interest, which is what too many Republicans do.

[rick campbell]

all you torture party members can refuse the healthcare that will be offered and all for the war can enlist!
just don't be like your commander and chief and not show up or like the right wing HERO rush limbaugh and refuse to go to war because of a pimple on his
a s s! chickenhawks love to fight wars with your children but do you see any of theirs over there? how about just give us the same health coverage as those in congress and their families receive? how will the fox fake news spin that one?

[sc]

joe,

maybe the people who can't afford insurance for their children should stop having babies. if you can't afford them, don't have them. and if you can't afford birth control or condoms, stop having sex.